On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 06:43:37PM +0300, Dmitry Butskoy wrote: > Olivier Galibert wrote: > >> Fedora was originally nice for people coming from an Unix background, >> where 50% of the windows on the screen are xterms. It seems to have >> collectively decided that it should instead cater to the Windows kind >> of people, to the detriment of the Unix ones. > > Perhaps it could be a good idea to provide a "spifit-of-UNIX" Fedora spin. > Actually, all the packages are (still) present in the common "Everything" > repository. But I don't know, how many "ancient UNIX users" remain in > Fedora world. I am. You are. Who else?.. I am. And this issue was already discussed (at least the desktop part): https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-November/msg00208.html > It seems a task for people as you and I to provide a "traditional UNIX" > additional style for Fedora. Remember, a lot of people even do not know > what is UNIX at all. They never worked under it. It depends what you call 'traditional UNIX', but some design concepts are being forgotten in any case (look at the udev/dbus/hal/gnome-power-management stack), be it for good or bad. And in my opinion the life of the traditional UNIX user on linux will increasingly be a struggle for survival given that the big desktop are the one with more time in hand in linux now. Now, old style UNIX users don't need a lot to live, so the struggle may not be that painful, but these days are certainly over when linux was ruled by simplicity and text files. -- Pat -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list