On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 10:27 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > On Nov 19, 2007 7:07 AM, Lubomir Kundrak <lkundrak@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 01:18 -0600, Arthur Pemberton wrote: > > > I have expressed my ideas[1] to add and rework some of the > > > functionality of the system-config tools with the hope of making them > > > a bit more innovative and useful. > > > > > > Please comment on the idea. > > > > > Rework (not a total rewrite) system-config tools use a common virtual console which abstracts away local and remote console usage. Anticipated benefits: > > > > > > * transparently handle local or remote console (via ssh) > > > o allow configuration of remote services > > > > this is possible now: > > ssh -X my.server system-config-httpd > > One question: I know about this method, but have never tried it myself > - doesn't it require an xserver on the host? It does not. Why would it? > One comment: The crowd that really love the system-config tools would > like prefer not to be doing x forwarding via SSH Why? Wasn't it the reason why X forwarding was born? Well, he can do that without the forwarding, by just setting DISPLAY, with no obvious benefits :) > > > o possible allow for OS independent usage (example: system-config-httpd could be used from Windows XP) > > > > You can do the very same thing from Windows XP. > > I was thinking more in terms of the user just running system-config-* > on Fedora|Windows|* and just enter in a host and passkey|user+pass and > make changes to the target system Well, it needs some fixes in Windows upstream. Until it happens, cygwin/X is comfortable enough. > > > o allow for those who prefer not to run server tools with a X server installed to make use of the system-config tools > > > > None of the system-config-* tools depends on X server except for > > system-config-display. > > True, but you do generally need a GUI to make use of the GUI system-config tools Will the proposed changes make me use the tools without a graphical interface? Is the proposal about providing a TUI for each tool? -- Lubomir Kundrak (Red Hat Security Response Team) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list