On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 16:37 +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Mon, 2007-11-19 at 15:06 +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > > Just wondering: Why don't we work towards getting some sane config tools > > (seperated in UI, logic, ...) close to Gnome (and KDE, should there be > > interest)? Sure, that way other distros will benefit from out work as > > well, but on the other hand having stuff as de-facto part of Gnome and > > used by other distros afaics lead to better tools and a better user > > experience, which overall leads to a better "Linux". > > AFAIK, some stuff, e.g. date and time setting via the time applet, > creating users, is already worked on for GNOME. Whether these will cover > all aspects (e.g. also server specific stuff), I don't know. Whether > these should cover non-desktop aspects at all can also be disputed ;-). > > Certainly, once UI and logic of the existing tools are sufficiently > separated the logic could be used from applets/tools more tightly > integrated into the desktop environment of choice if there's the need. Might be worthwhile to point out that there is prior art in this area with gnome-system-tools. They already have the ui/mechanism split and are moving towards adopting PolicyKit. The traditional complaint about them has been that they have no distro adoption, but I recently learned that probably at least Debian/Ubuntu, Gentoo and FreeBSD are using them nowadays. There are admittedly a few warts: - the backends used to be written in perl (not sure if that is still the case) - they follow the kitchen-sink approach of keeping everything in a single system-tools-backends package If we are talking about cross-distro collaboration for traditional system-config tools, that may be the leading contender. What we in the desktop team want to push a little further in F9 is to move some system configuration tasks into the regular tools where that makes sense. An early example of that is the time+timezone setting inside the clock applet, other examples to follow will be a "Use these settings system-wide" button for the power management preferences and some other areas where it makes sense. Access to this will be controlled via PolicyKit as well. Matthias -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
