Hi, It seems recently one of my two onboard NICs has decided to not remember its MAC address between reboots. Since I just updated the BIOS firmware, I suspect that as the culprit but I also upgraded to Fedora 8 about the same time so it may be to blame. I don't know. Windows 2000 reports a MAC of 00:00:00:00:00:00 and won't start that interface at all. When I boot Fedora 8, NetworkManager seems to assign a seemingly randomly chosen MAC and generates an ethX interface for it ... everytime ... a different ethX entry. So needless to say, there are a lot of scripts starting to accumulate in my /etc/sysconfig/networking directory. Looking at the NIC register dump using 'ethtool -d <device>, a MAC can be assigned using 'ifconfig <device> hw ether <MAC>' but it just gets reset on the next reboot. Is there a way for NetworkManager (or traditional network tools) to identify these NICs (other than the non-persistent MAC) so that the NIC can have a constant MAC assigned to it? Is there a way for me to stop NetworkManager from keeping old non-existent NIC configs in the ifcfg-ethx.bak files? FYI: It is a ASUS A7N8X Deluxe motherboard with two onboard NICs (the other NIC seems to work just fine). [root@localhost ~]# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) (rev c1) 00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 1 (rev c1) 00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 4 (rev c1) 00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 3 (rev c1) 00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 2 (rev c1) 00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 5 (rev c1) 00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 ISA Bridge (rev a4) 00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce2 SMBus (MCP) (rev a2) 00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4) 00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4) 00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev a4) 00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet Controller (rev a1) 00:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce Audio Processing Unit (rev a2) 00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 Audio Controler (MCP) (rev a1) 00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 External PCI Bridge (rev a3) 00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IDE (rev a2) 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 PCI Bridge (rev a3) 00:0d.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): nVidia Corporation nForce2 FireWire (IEEE 1394) Controller (rev a3) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (rev c1) 01:0b.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 02) 02:01.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller [Tornado] (rev 40) 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc R430 [Radeon X800 XL] (PCIe) 03:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc R430 [Radeon X800 XL] (PCIe) (Secondary) /Mike -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list