Bug #134886 is still there since fedora core 3 times. It means that NetworkManager will happily shutdown the interfaces, ignore any settings you've put in anaconda and wipe out /etc/resolv.conf if you happen not to use dhcp. Like in a lab, where desktops and servers tend not to wander around so much and dhcp is used only for laptops. Fedora 8 adds another level to the fun: - NetworkManager is started at gdm time. Which means that your anaconda settings are ignored (and the DNS settings *erased*) as soon as the login interface appears. - service network restart doesn't work, because NM detects it and stomps all over it - you can't just chkconfig NM out. It looks like it's started by gnome itself, or maybe hal, so one has to study their "my wheel is better than your wheel" startup configuration. Or maybe not. Dunno really. - if you try to yum remove it, you lose evolution, krb5-auth-dialog, libpurple, nautilus-sendto and pidgin. - once you rpm -e --nodeps it, you find out that the "network" service is not on by default either (liveCD install) I find the idea of having to do a pair of rpm -e in kickstart kinda demented. Is there a saner answer? OG. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list