On 14.11.2007 19:22, Patrice Dumas wrote: > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:44:56PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: >> CCing fedora-advisory-board >> Some of them are quite old. And the list of course doesn't include those >> bugs that got closed as the packager lost interest over time. > I am not sure that these numbers make much sense. Because the merge > review are special for a number of reason. Sure they are -- but with the current rate we'll finish them by Fedora 12. By then we likely should already have start a re-review of the oldest packages to see what cruft made it into them over the years since review. Which brings me to my "slightly more wiki style approach" -- currently I now and then see some errors in spec files (even in my own). I often ignore most them which I locate in other peoples packages because preparing a patch, submitting it via bugzilla is a to much work for small fixes. Simply submitting them to CVS would be way easier. That's why I think experienced packagers and/or a review group should be allowed to do such changes directly in CVS -- devel branch only and not in the four weeks right before a release is scheduled of course. That group with some hand-made scripts could even grep for common errors in the devel branch and simply just fix then with a sed call within some minutes. Currently it would require lots of mails, new bugs and contributer poking, because modifying other peoples packages in Fedora-land is frowned upon. That way we could improve package quality throughout the distro. And even things that slipped through review would get fixed. > [...] >> Why do you think it's bad? Because I more and more often hear in private >> that contributers are unhappy. I also got the impression that people are >> more and more unwilling to participate in discussions and on lists. And >> there are no new leaders emerging in FESCo/packaging-land (the low >> number of people that volunteered during the FESCo election is one >> reasons for this opinion; or look at FPC -- according to the wiki the >> same people since one year; there is also next-to no interest by >> non-committee-members in participating in the meetings). > > I am also worried by the fact that the wiki is always lagging behind, > this is something that should especially be followed by FESCo, even > though it is a wiki. Yeah, maintaining the wiki is a boring job :-/ Sometimes I think that a owner per wiki-page might be a good idea -- he could roughly oversee changes, coordinate them and now and them just look at each page with his "is it sill up2date"-glasses. > But I am not sure that te number of reviews pending is something FESCo > can do a lot about. Well, I think FESCo should watch it and look where changes in hte process are needed to keep everything working. CU knurd -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
