Jeremy Katz writes: > On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 11:21 -0500, Janina Sajka wrote: > > There is at least one potential dialog that breaks accessibility after a > > user logs in, but before Orca (or Gok) loads. I became aware of this one > > demonstrating Orca in Italian to a CompSci professor at a recont F/OSS > > symposium in Florence. > > > > The dialog we came across advises of available updates. It does not talk > > (in my case). So, it's an accessibility show-stopper. > > > > Generically speaking, all such potential pop-ups need to be vetted for > > accessibility. What about the one that says: "you're not connected to > > the Internet," for instance? > > They're actually from the same source. The problem here is that things > in the notification area (puplet, nm-applet, etc) are all started by > gnome-session as is the panel, orca, etc. If one of the notification > area applets wants to show a notification bubble, they just do a > libnotify call. But there's no way to ensure that the panel is up (and > thus that their icon is actually visible) much less if other things like > a11y technologies are running. > > We really need a way to serialize some of this. Unfortunately, that'll > end up coming at the cost of a (slightly) slower login time > So, it sounds like the proper fix is upstream in Gnome development? But, what's the short term work around for the Fedora 8 user? Right now it's a crap shoot whether one can access the desktop with Orca, or not. Clearly, it may often be possible to go run a 'yum update,' but it won't always be possible to do that. Janina > Jeremy > > -- > fedora-devel-list mailing list > fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list -- Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@xxxxxxxx Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com Chair, Open Accessibility janina@xxxxxxxx Linux Foundation http://a11y.org -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list