On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 15:45 +0100, Hans de Goede wrote: > Will Woods wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 13:46 +0000, Peter Robinson wrote: > >>> I am running 7.92, and I see that the new firewire stack is in place. > >>> There is a page at the linux1394 wiki that suggests that kernel > >>> packagers build the old stack into the kernel for the time being: > >>> > >>> http://wiki.linux1394.org/JujuMigration > >>> > >>> Any chance of this happenign for Fedora 8? > > > > Short answer: No. We've been using the Juju stack since F7 and we're not > > moving back, 'cuz Cutting Edge is what we're all about. But see below. > > > >> Right below where it says the best advise is to use the old drivers it > >> also says : > >> > >> Building the new drivers is only for advanced users (who for example > >> want the better speed of firewire-sbp2 relative to sbp2, on the > >> hardware on which the new drivers already work) - and for distributors > >> who know what is required in userspace to make use of the new drivers > >> (i.e. a patched libraw1394, a libdc1394 prerelease, adapted scripts > >> and config files etc.). > >> > >> I suspect "distributors who know what is required in userspace" covers > >> Fedora and hence the required patches are probably all there. > > > > Right. Kristian Høgsberg is the primary author of the Juju stack - he's > > a Red Hat employee and Fedora contributor. He got all the Juju bits into > > F7 - the "new firewire stack" has been in place since then. > > > > So nothing's really new for firewire in F8. The only noticeable changes > > since F7 are some bugfixes, and some changes relating to dvgrab, > > libraw1394 and isochronous devices (basically cameras and other > > audio/video devices). > > > > Iso devices should work everywhere *except* machines with OHCI 1.0 > > controllers. Otherwise you get this message in dmesg: > > > > firewire_ohci: Added fw-ohci device 0000:03:03.0, OHCI version 1.0 > > firewire_ohci: Isochronous I/O is not yet implemented for OHCI 1.0 > > chips. > > firewire_ohci: Cameras, audio devices etc. won't work on this > > controller with this driver version. > > > > Unfortunately, these turn out to be more common than previously thought. > > But people are actively working on this problem - see this bug: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=Juju_OHCI_1.0 > > > > It's possible this will be fixed in an F8 update. It's quite likely to > > be fixed for Fedora 9. If that's not soon enough, I'm told there's some > > third-party repositories out there that package up the older stack. > > Correct, most notably planet ccrma (AFAIK) Yup. The Planet CCRMA realtime kernels had to revert to the old stack (and as a result I have to track and supercede libraw1394 releases from Fedora - not good). Non functioning firewire audio interfaces are a bit of a problem if you do audio. -- Fernando -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
