On Friday 28 September 2007, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 22:36:56 +0000 (UTC), Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Ville Skyttä writes: > > When the installed set of packages is not broken, i.e. the latest > pm-utils requires the installed radeontool/vbetool pkgs without broken > deps, why does Smart even look at the older pm-utils pkg? I can see Obsoletes making it hard to decide what's older. Sure, pm-utils in F7 is older than the one in F7 updates if you only look at the pm-utils EVRs, but the troublemaker unversioned Obsoletes on radeontool and vbetool in the F7 pm-utils also make it newer than radeontool and vbetool in F7 updates and the mess begins. I suppose if Smart wouldn't consider updating something for which it needs to downgrade something unless explicitly told to, we wouldn't see the problem in this particular case. Or something :) > > > I'm not sure about this and haven't tested, but I guess adding > > > Obsoletes: pm-utils < %{version}-%{release} > > > to the new pm-utils could help smart get over it. Thoughts? > > Hmm... but it's already that a new version-release of a pkg implicitly > replaces an old version-release, because that is how updates work. Adding some odd redundant-looking explicit Obsoletes to emphasize what we want has however been a cure for some similar looking corner case depsolving problems (nothing related to Smart in particular) before, so that's the first thing I thought trying in this case. > Effectively, you would try to add something only to get Smart not > look at the old version-release anymore. Sure, assigning a negative priority for the pm-utils package in the F7 release repo works around it. I have no problem doing that locally [0], but just wanted to use this case as yet another example why unversioned Obsoletes are practically always a bad idea. Ditto often but not always unversioned Provides. [0] Well, except that setting negative priorities on the command line is currently broken at least in Smart 0.51, workaround is to do it in smart --gui. http://tracker.labix.org/issue306 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list