I don't know about after an initial f8t2 install, but at least since the updates, k3b nor xcdroast can detect a cdrom nor dvd drive. It wasn't detected on my last updated system before I did a reinstall yesterday. I can see the devices in the kernel messages. Would this have to do with cdrecord or something about that, as I thought there were license problems with that program and therefore is maybe screwing things up? -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "Best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list