With the latest batch of rawhide updates (kernel-2.6.23-0.185.rc6.git7.fc8 etc.) there seems to be something wrong with D-Bus and/or HAL. The brightness applet reports that it can't connect to gnome-power-manager and the NetworkManager applet doesn't appear. I restarted HAL and D-Bus and eventually the NM applet appeared but it would not connect to my network: Sep 19 21:23:36 vaio NetworkManager: <info> Activation (wlan0) failed. Upon rebooting to the 2.6.23-0.184.rc6.git4.fc8 kernel, I had the same symptoms and had to restart the same services, but I was able to connect to the network. The wireless hardware is ipw3945, though I'm not sure whether this is a kernel problem or a problem with other packages. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list