I have my own strong feelings on a lot of the issues you mentioned. And I would like for there to be discussion on them, but a few things need to be considered. These threads are hardly ever constructive. Could we first have a discussion on some ground rules, etc to make these kind of discussions fruitful? Could people suspend emotionally driven responses and keep things as technical as possible? I'd rather we spend a month figuring out _how_ to have these discussions in a constructive manner, than have several of these threads. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list