On 2007-09-01, 21:03 GMT, Douglas McClendon wrote: > Even if those situations account for 1/10,000 users, those are > precisely the cases that need to be covered to market something > as "bulletproof". People who are able to find all necessary numbers will most likely have no problem with the most mature front-end for the X configuration -- you know, the know which name consists only from letters "v" and "i" (in this order ;-)). No really, what I read in Adam's email (and what's my experience from reading hundreds of Xorg bugs, being bugmaster for RH desktop I read a lot of them), the problems we have are not in not having enough information about hardware (take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- there is plenty of information there) -- it's that quite often the information provided by hardware is plainly wrong, or that xorg drivers suck. Concerning the former, I don't understand how would information provided to Windows by the vendor was that much better than information they provide via hardware. And concerning the latter, I don't see any relation to "bulletproof X" whatsoever. Please, correct me if I am wrong. Matej -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list