I imagine everyone here either knows this or will know this at some point, but I'll mention it for those that don't; the KDE 4.0 release is being pushed back to December. I guess this means that F8 should ship KDE 3.5 after all. http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=118856887429944&w=2 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list