Just a note - pam_console in pam-0.99.8.1-5.fc8 drops support for changing device ownership for all devices which are now handled by HAL. So after upgrade & reboot please test whether some hardware devices formerly accessible by console user stop working due to missing access rights and report the bugs against HAL. -- Tomas Mraz No matter how far down the wrong road you've gone, turn back. Turkish proverb -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list