Josh Boyer wrote: > Forgive my ignorance on the subject, but is "kde4 desktop" different > from "kde4 runtime"? Yes. My loose definitions: "kde4 runtime": infrastructure (libs, resources) required to develop/run kde4 apps. "kde4 desktop": kde4's kdm (login manager), kwin (window manager), etc... To simplify, the 2 scenarios for f8 to include: * (more likely) Like f7, kde3 desktop + kde4 runtime * kde4 desktop + kde3 runtime ok, or 3rd icky option: * kde4 runtime not ready and not included(1). (1) at ship date, doesn't preclude adding it afterward (just like any other "new package"). -- Rex -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list