Re: Fedora 8's FUDCon

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Max,

Where would I find the list of suggestions for F8. I would be interested in reading what you have planned so far.

Scott
----- Original Message ----- From: "Max Spevack" <mspevack@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <fedora-devel-announce@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 5:41 PM
Subject: Fedora 8's FUDCon


Yesterday the Fedora Board made the decision not to hold an in-person FUDCon for F8. Like you, I'm a disappointed, but I'm also excited for us to try out an organized, weekend-long virtual hackfest (more below).

The Board also began planning for the F9 FUDCon, which would be held around January or February 2008. This earlier planning should give us time to resolve the kinds of problems we've faced with this short-notice FUDCon.

There's a couple of reasons for the cancellation of the Fedora 8 FUDCon.

The first is the most obvious of all -- we have been unable to secure a location that could offer us a place for both a FUDCon and a hackfest. Additionally, the administrative overhead for putting on a FUDCon is very high. Becoming a FUDCon event planner becomes a full time job for a couple of people in order to make the event happen. Especially this late, just getting the logistics for a FUDCon worked out would take up lots of people's time that we can't really afford.

Also a factor is the financial cost of a FUDCon. With the comparatively smaller scope of Fedora 8, it seems wise to save money now by not going through the whole FUDCon process, and allowing the financial and budget planners to have more opportunity to make a larger commitment to Fedora 9. Fedora 9 will be a bigger release, and I'd rather have one really good FUDCon and hackfest then, than try to do two of them on the cheap.

The feature list for Fedora 8 is coming together very well, and we're planning over the next few weeks how we can do a virtual hackfest for F8. The idea is to pick some days, probably the same weekend (4, 5 August), and organize energy around people having an IRC-based hackfest that weekend.

We can capture some of the energy that would come from a hackfest, but in a way that has significantly less overhead and organizational costs.

Part of the danger of trying to plan and discuss things in public from the very beginning is that when you're forced to pull the plug on something, you have to send out emails like this. I'm willing to accept that, because overall I think we get a bretter experience for everyone by doing our planning in the open.

Sorry, folks, for the short notice coming and going! We really appreciate your understanding, flexibility, good ideas, and patience.

--Max

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