Hi I'd like to throw a couple of my thoughts about KDE in Fedora and how it could be improved. 1. QT-Frontend for YUM There are lots of good GTK frontends for yum (pirut, yumex) but there aren't really any good QT frontends for yum. There is kyum but it's certainly lacking in comparison to yumex. I think a QT version of yumex could be real nice and it could cut down on GTK dependencies in KDE, maybe? Another suggestions would be to port Adept from Kubuntu or Debian. 2. KDE Update Notifier Maybe a frontend for pup in QT or adept-updater? 3. Selecting KDE meta-package on the dvd brings in KDE only apps (except maybe GIMP and Firefox). I noticed when I selected KDE and deselected GNOME that it still wanted to install rhythmbox, soundjuicer, totem, pidgin, and other GNOME apps. This is not only adding to bloat from a KDE users stand point but it's also a bit annoying. I am sure GNOME users don't want a lot of KDE apps stinking of their desktops unless they select them. 4. Nice windeco and style The inclusion of KDE4 and oxygen might obsolete this thought. 5. A KDE irc channel Something like #fedora-kde on irc.freenode.net would be a nice place for those interested in KDE to discuss KDE on fedora, packaging, KDE4, and other related issues. This would not be for support and this would of course be specified in the topic. This could provide a place for the KDE developers and those interested in packaging, art, and helping out to discuss relevant issues. I know that opensuse, debian, and kubuntu all have channels similar to this. Cheers, Chris -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list