Admittedly I only skimmed this thread, but it seems like a decent opportunity to work my top three annoyances with the current system into discussion =) - Don't make me increment integers (Release); this is what computers (i.e. the build system) are for - Get rid of the redundant changelog so I don't have to type changes twice (and this would also remove the redundant version number too) - Remove the 'make tag' step (I think switching to a RCS with atomic commits would fix this). Actually I think you could reduce the whole thing to just "make build" by checking the output of $RCS status, if there are modified files $RCS commit, then invoke the current "make build". -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list