On 6/6/07, Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I think we're way off in the weeds trying to solve the wrong problem here.
I would agree. Since i started this round of discussion. Let me clarify. All I want is a preferred technical means that we can comfortable offer to users as an upgrade path (and test as part of release-eng) without needing a dvd/cdrom burner/reader locally, especially now that we have dropped cdrom iso sets. A solution that can work with a remote system would be nice, but not my primary concern. For my part, I take it as sacred truth that 'live' upgrades, no matter how you do it, will have more caveats than a specialized boot image based approach and will never be considered the preferred method to be encourage to the 99% of the userbase which is less technically inclined than those of us who attempt to hold constructive discussion in this list. I am not looking for a solution which attempts to make 'live' upgrades look easier. Putting a child proof safety cap on a bottle of shards of broken glass isn't going to get us anywhere. What I want is a preferred solution which can be offered to users without a dvd/cdrom burner/reader which gives them an upgrade path similar to users who have access to burner/reader hardware. Now perhaps a simple way to create a bootable installer usb stick would suffice. Or a simple way to make a grub entry for an installer image would do it. Both of these methods already have cookie-cutter howtos floating around on the web. Toolizing the recipe instructions and offering a tool to users instead of a howto to read seems reasonably done in time for F8. Blowing up the world to re-engineer how we think installs/upgrades should work in general probably isn't. -jef"so if I ask to have my wisdom teeth returned to me after the surgery, can I trade them to the Tooth Fairy for some swag?"spaleta -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
