Jeremy Katz <katzj <at> redhat.com> writes:
> > I hate -devel conflicts too, but the at least the .so symlinks conflict,
> Then things *aren't* parallel installable.
A lot of compat libs work like that, the runtime packages with the versioned
so-s are parallel installable, the -devel packages conflict.
This is also what upstream KDE is planning to deliver.
> Conflicts like this just aren't acceptable to have in Fedora because now
> _I_ as a developer have to choose which I'm developing apps for. And if
Guess why I hate them too.
There's the possibility of switching between the packages or of using a mock
chroot, but that sucks.
> I'm just building apps that I find online, I'm going to be wanting to
> build for both APIs.
Same as above.
> And that makes our user experience suck. If upstream doesn't see that,
> then it might be worth doing like we've had to do for some other
> libraries to get fully parallel installable even if it's not the path of
> upstream :(
Sure I could patch the heck out of KDE to install the symlinks
into /usr/lib/kde[34], rename conflicting binaries etc., but then we'd probably
have to patch the heck out of all applications building against it. KDE doesn't
use pkg-config, and kde-config has no --libs option where you can easily add
a -L foo option. And this doesn't even cover stuff like kconfig_compiler.
Or we could install one of the 2 KDE versions into a custom prefix
like /opt/kde3 or /opt/kde4, and in fact this is what my current kde*4 packages
do, but then good bye FHS.
> But one would hope that when presented with reason and
> patches, upstream would be willing to come along. Because every other
> distribution is going to have the same questions, concerns and problems
Rex Dieter, I think you have the best contacts upstream, could you please take
this up with them?
But I'm not sure about the "every other distribution" part. OpenSUSE had KDE 3
in /opt/kde3, so they're not affected by most of this, and the others probably
just have the -devel packages conflict.
Kevin Kofler
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