Re: Fedora scheduling made easy

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John Poelstra wrote:

In this post https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-March/msg00341.html Jeremy makes a good point about being able to scale and holding to our schedules. I believe the Fedora project can scale successfully with detailed schedules and more information about what happens in each step. I've created a new framework (contrasted with the existing schedule) and taken a few liberties at guessing at a few additional milestones that might be useful: https://poelcat.108.redhat.com/nonav/fedora/schedules/fc7/fc7-sched.png. Additional steps can easily be added.

As I went through the Fedora schedule here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/7 I found a general outline of what is supposed to happen, but not a lot of explanation about what each step means or what is required for a particular milestone to be considered finished... in other words, "what exactly does String Freeze mean?"

This shouldnt be part of a schedule. The schedule assumes that everyone involved knows what a string freeze means. If that requires explanation the schedule can link to the developers guide.

http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/developers-guide/

The developer's guide needs to be updated to take into account current practices.

 I would like to volunteer to help by maintaining a more detailed
schedule and adding some additional wiki pages which define our terms :)

I think this should be part of the guide referenced above.

The benefits of having the Fedora schedules in a project planning tool is that it is easier to manage unforeseen delays, plan alternate scenarios, and have a clearer sense of how we are doing at a particular point in time towards meeting the published schedule on time. We could also combine the docs schedule with the main Fedora schedule in a modular/manageable way. A detailed schedule would also help our project be more transparent and let others in on how many different steps go into making a release happen. Right now I have the source and generated output in my own hosting space, but can easily move it to a Fedora name space if someone can suggest the best place. I was thinking it could either be part of "infrastructure" or "Fedora board?"

Fedora Infrastructure. I assume you are willing to be the owner leading this effort.

A sample of the scheduling reports are here: https://poelcat.108.redhat.com/nonav/fedora/schedules/fc7/tasks-overview.html Others can be created for different time periods and varying levels of detail.

Any objections to moving forward with this?

I am not familiar with with all the graphs, notations and colors mean as compared to the specifications in the wiki which are quite easy to understand. I have no problem with you moving forward but I want to make sure I and others can understand what is being described in these documents. Would you care to explain that a bit?

Rahul

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