On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:17:36 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Friday 23 February 2007 07:35, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > * heavy use of Red Hat internal mailing-lists for Fedora related matters, > > This is complete BS. Disagree as much as you like, but please avoid the strong language. > Maybe one or three messages a month pop up on internal > lists, and those are immediately redirected to external lists. Repeatedly, there have been references to relevant topics on internal lists, involving Fedora or Core. I've pointed out a few examples long ago. With regard to the Fedora Merge, most recent is this one: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-February/msg00577.html Now, I guess somebody will deny that it's relevant discussion. Still, you cannot deny that internal lists plus interal IRC plus additional forms of internal communication don't do a community project any good when public communication channels are criticised for their poor s/n ratio. > > * more closed circles, in which decisions are made -- including mysteries > > like brew, koji, and code transfer for the new Updates System, > > These decisions were made at the Fedora summit, with the Fedora board and > other community folks, complete with an IRC channel during the live > discussions. Further discussion has happened in Fedora board meetings and > public Fedora lists. Which lists exactly? > > * unclear role of FESCo, not enough steering -- instead: the drive > > that "you don't need to be in FESCo to get something done", > > I don't even know what you mean by this. That's sad. But you're not listed as a FESCo member anyway. Perhaps I should lose my hope that somebody else in FESCo still has a clue what I refer to. Viel oder wenig? Schnell oder langsam? Unbegrenzt surfen + telefonieren ohne Zeit- und Volumenbegrenzung? DAS TOP ANGEBOT JETZT bei Arcor: günstig und schnell mit DSL - das All-Inclusive-Paket für clevere Doppel-Sparer, nur 44,85 ? inkl. DSL- und ISDN-Grundgebühr! http://www.arcor.de/rd/emf-dsl-2 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list