Re: Core values

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Thomas M Steenholdt wrote:
Arthur Pemberton wrote:
On 2/22/07, Thomas M Steenholdt <tmus@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Keith G. Robertson-Turner wrote:
> Verily I say unto thee, that Dave Jones spake thusly:
>> On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 03:30:08PM -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
>>
>> > The Ubuntu crowd gets this. The Fedora crowd doesn't. That difference is
>>  > nowhere near the only reason I'm gone, but it's a big one.
>>
>> Didn't you leave already?
>
> I don't think he's generated enough publicity for Ubuntu/Linspire yet,
> to justify his paycheck.
>

Color me old-fashioned, but isn't now a good time to stop the mud
slinging contest?!? I really doubt anything constructive will ever come
from that.

/Thomas

To which mudslinging do you refer to exactly?

Mudslinging, name-calling and negatively worded posts, without a real value to the debate, in general...

Who cares who's paid for what and by whom. Some possible areas of improvement was brought up. Perhaps we can use some that as valuable input to improve Fedora, perhaps not. So we should all filter the input to end up with something we can use constructively, rather than to keep "feeding the fire".

I'm all for the debate, but some of the posts are just not constructive at all. So lets try to focus on what we can use the input for, rather than spending a lot of time getting all worked up.
You are to be praised for this post. In a thread filled with way too much venom, way too much arrogance, there have been too few who, like you, seem to possess reason and sense. Maybe Eric does have some points. Maybe Fedora can be better because of his rant. But most important of all, he has every right to speak his mind, as do all the naysayers.

I have been there. Fedora in general and Rawhide in particular drives me nuts. I am not as technically astute as many on this list. But I'd sure like to be. So I hang in there. And I'd like to help make Fedora better than it is. Because of what you said, I will look for an opportunity to help you.

Thank you, Thomas.

-pmr


/Thomas


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