>>>>> "FA" == Florin Andrei <florin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: FA> If I'm not mistaken, yum seems fairly unique in this regard. FA> I mean, heck, look at Microsoft for example. Their update thing FA> applies as many patches as possible, and those that cannot be FA> applied, well duh, they don't get applied and the user is notified FA> by big honking red icons that something failed. Yum just doesn't follow the Unix commandline tradition. Unix commands should succeed quietly, and only show output if it is something the user asks for. They don't ask whether you really mean it when you tell them to do something -- heck even cp needs -i to ask whether you want to clobber a file, and that one is AFAIK a GNUism. They don't block SIGINT except when absolutely needed, and then only for a short time. Yum's interface is made for a GUI, where all this interactivity makes sense. The default should be to do exactly what the user asked, unless it is impossible. That is, it should take an extra switch to let it upgrade even when there are broken dependencies, but that extra switch should not be -y. -y is almost as bad as --force for rpm. There should probably be a switches to stop yum from upgrading or removing packages when doing an install. Add -i and --progress switches to get back the current behaviour, if people can't live without it. The --progress thing would actually make sense, if package fetching is slow sometimes. /Benny (Sorry for the gripe. Yum is a godsend, it is just the interface which is a pain) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list