On Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 03:30:08PM -0500, Eric S. Raymond wrote: > This is so out of contact with reality that it makes me grind my teeth. Eric I think you lost the plot, actually I don't think you ever got the plot in the first place but that is another story > Want to fix or scrap the damned patent system? Want to get the damned > DMCA repealed? Do you want even as little a thing as 3D graphics and > wireless cards with open specs? I spend material amounts of time with people like politicians. They don't care about 30% market share, they care (on the whole) about doing the right thing and where there isn't an easy answer picking a path that doesn't result in chaos. > need market share over 50%. We need politicians and vendors to fear > our wrath. Ah yes its the gun/power thing again. "Me got big gun, me scary", which usually results in "me dead". You don't win hearts and minds by being scary and violent (see Iraq for a worked example). > It wasn't 'sacrificing our core values' to ship a binary Netscape > blob until Mozilla was ready. It won't be sacrificing our core values The real free distributions didn't ship binary netscape blobs. > to ship proprietary codecs until we are positioned to crush them out > of existence. There is a much easier way to work with these people. You support those who open source stuff (eg intel video), you ignore those who won't (eg AMD bugs get a lot less time nowdays and will continue to do so until ATI grow up) For proprietary codecs its up to end users if they want to install them, yum provides a mechanism for anyone on the planet to distribute new repositories not just livna and friends. You've got a nice level playing field and a business opportunity. The moment Fedora includes non-free stuff it becomes a problem for all the people who redistribute and respin it, and it becomes unfair in the proprietary world in the eyes of everyone who didn't get included. Alan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
