On Wed, 2007-02-21 at 10:15 -0500, Warren Togami wrote: > Gilboa Davara wrote: > > > > Unless I'm mistaken, the original idea was that -devel members has to be > > sponsored before given rw rights. > > Being a fedora developer and/or an active -extras maintainer will just > > speed things up. > > No. fedora-devel-list was originally meant to be developer discussion > only. End-user support does not belong here at all. Unfortunately, > this list has been increasingly failing us for a few reasons: > > - "developer discussion" is a gray area > - policing is a manual process of constant vigilance. Effort today > leaves no lasting effects in a few days. Ouch. Bad phrasing on my side. I meant: A couple of of months ago it was suggest that the -devel ML will become semi-closed - pushing the public debates into a newly formed ML. > > What if more list members helped in the policing, making it an actively > hostile place for end-users to post support questions? I dunno... Personally, I can live with support questions. However, politics, flame-wars and the occasional troll makes my skin crawl. > > > > > I'm not saying that -devel should be limited to RH/FC/Extras members > > -only-, I am saying that something must be done to improve the > > signal-to-noise ratio. > > > > fedora-maintainers was created as an invite only list for this purpose. > The signal to noise ratio is a bit better there. I am personally fine > with inviting anybody with cvsextras access, or who has done something > substantive in infrastructure or docs to that list. /+1 I'm suggesting that -devel should mirror this behavior. (AFAIK maintainers is for packaging/cvs/extras/etc questions/problems - IMHO a similar ML should be created for development/long-term discussions) > > Warren Togami > wtogami@xxxxxxxxxx - Gilboa -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list