Matthias Saou schrieb: > Neal Becker wrote : >> I know there was some discussion about dkms for fedora. It seemed (to me) >> mostly positive. Well, nobody ever proposed a "this is a detailed proposal how we could use dkms for packaging kernel modules in Fedora that works like this with our exisiting tools (yum, plague)". That would be a first step someone would need to do afaics. Doing it now is much to late for F7 afaics. And, btw, there is a lot of reluctance in general against packaging kernel-modules in Fedora. Many people don't want them at all. I more and more think we should have a separate repo for stuff like that *under* the hood of the fedora-project and not enabled by default. >> Is there interest in pushing this forward for fc7? > [...] > 2) Fedora seems to be more interested in working on a long term > solution for kernel modules, The real long term solution IMHO can only be: get all kernel modules into the upstream kernel. ;-) We IMHO should cooperate with at least Opensuse and Ubuntu to put more pressure on the driver developers by not including them in our main distro; that might convince them to submit their stuff upstream . But that afaics would be a really hard task, especially selling in to one of those two distros I named. Anyway: > having them cleanly available as rpm > packages, instead of starting using dkms. My 2 cent: Normal users should get modules pre-compiled as rpm package (read: "we are not gentoo"). For enthusiasts something like dkms might be a good idea. But I think most of us don't want to maintain two codepaths for compiling kernel-modules, so we need to get both concepts under one hood. E.g.: either use dkms in the buildsys, too, or find a way to recompile the kmod srpm for new kernels automatically. I hope we (Spot, mdomsch, Jon Masters, /me, maybe some others) can sit down on the hackfest after fudon and work out a rough concept for the future. CU thl -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list