I'd like to add the following goal for fc7: All apps that require net connection for startup should be modified to only start if a network connection is available. For example, when I login the following start: kopete kontact (kmail) akregator ksmarttray If my net connection is not up, every one of these things pops up all kinds of windows with error messages. When I brought up this issue on the NM develop list, it was mentioned that suse had modified this apps to fix this behavior. I don't know if they fed the changes upstream. I would guess that the right thing to do is to listen on dbus for network connection being up? In any case, the current behavior is awful and should be fixed. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list