On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 16:33 -0800, Ulrich Drepper wrote: > Japheth J.C. Cleaver wrote: > > I don't see how the first two paragraphs here comport with the remaining > > ones. If people are going to be able to compile things statically then > > they need to be able to. > > The first paragraph is about linking the code which comes from your > package statically. I.e., only link those libraries statically and > everything else dynamic. Static linking is no all-or-nothing decision > in case you didn't know. > > > > (Our mail server saw a > > performance boost of about 20% when we statically linked our process chain.) > > I *very* much doubt those numbers. Using PIC and the runtime linker > does not add that much overhead. Never has, never will. If you compare > apples and oranges you can come up with such numbers, of course. > > > > We should not remove the ability to easily install static libraries from > > the Fedora/Fedora-Extras system simply due to someone's crusade against > > it. If a Fedora user is to be trusted with Development Packages, then > > they should be trusted to "know what they're doing" wrt dynamic vs. > > static linking. > > No. And it can be proved easily: name all the libraries used in all the > builds of the statically linked apps. And automate rebuilding when any > of those changes. Fact is, nobody does this. Only through dynamic > linking can you take immediately advantage of the new builds. Some misguided folk are still trying, though. The most recent example I can think of is OpenPKG wanting support for this in RPM. See: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.rpm.devel/1695 > And this is not "someone", it's everybody who understand a bit about > this. And it's not just Fedora or Red Hat, not even only Linux. > Solaris is also pushing hard to eradicate static linking with system > libraries. They've been eliminated entirely as of Solaris 10. A explanation why is here: http://blogs.sun.com/rie/entry/static_linking_where_did_it Unsurprisingly, it repeats much of what has been said in this thread already. -- Nicholas Miell <nmiell@xxxxxxxxxxx> -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
