Hi, I would like to see termcap and libtermcap removed, and to use ncurses everywhere. termcap is an obsolete system for describing terminal capabilities, it has annoying size limitations for the description and libtermcap is an old, unmaintained code. The ncurses library has a termcap emulation which is internally using terminfo database. It isn't 100% accurate (see curs_termcap(3)), but should be ok for most applications. libtermcap's API and ABI are compatible with ncurses. So what would be required to replace completely libtermcap with ncurses? - Move libncurses.so.* and/or libncursesw.so.* to /lib{,64}. - Move the most important entries in the terminfo database to /etc/terminfo or /lib{,64}/terminfo. Binary files don't fit /etc well, but the second option isn't much better as it will duplicate the entries on multiarch. - Rebuild packages currently using libtermcap against ncurses. It would be good to choose one of libncurses{,w} and link all binaries with it; linking with libncursesw will probably require more patching of configure scripts as some of them are prepared for libncurses already. Any thoughts? List of Core packages depending on libtermcap.so.2: amanda-0:2.5.0p2-4.i386 amanda-client-0:2.5.0p2-4.i386 amanda-server-0:2.5.0p2-4.i386 bash-0:3.1-16.1.i386 bc-0:1.06-21.i386 festival-0:1.95-5.2.1.i386 gnupg-0:1.4.5-5.i386 gnuplot-0:4.0.0-12.i386 gnutls-utils-0:1.4.1-2.i386 guile-5:1.8.1-1.fc7.i386 libtermcap-0:2.0.8-46.1.i386 libtermcap-devel-0:2.0.8-46.1.i386 lv-0:4.51-8.1.i386 pilot-link-2:0.11.8-16.i386 postgresql-0:8.1.4-1.1.i386 postgresql-contrib-0:8.1.4-1.1.i386 postgresql-devel-0:8.1.4-1.1.i386 postgresql-server-0:8.1.4-1.1.i386 procinfo-0:18-19.i386 python-0:2.4.4-1.fc7.i386 quagga-0:0.98.6-2.1.i386 ruby-libs-0:1.8.5-4.fc7.i386 tcsh-0:6.14-12.i386 util-linux-0:2.13-0.44.fc6.i386 vim-enhanced-2:7.0.162-2.i386 vim-minimal-2:7.0.162-2.i386 vim-X11-2:7.0.162-2.i386 xfsprogs-0:2.8.11-3.fc6.i386 xterm-0:215-3.fc6.i386 zsh-0:4.2.6-1.i386 And Extras packages: abiword-1:2.4.6-1.fc7.i386 clips-0:6.24-20.fc6.i386 clisp-0:2.41-1.fc6.i386 cyphesis-0:0.5.10-1.fc6.i386 darcs-0:1.0.8-4.fc7.i386 genius-0:0.7.6.1-3.fc6.i386 ghc66-0:6.6-1.fc7.i386 ginac-utils-0:1.3.5-1.fc6.i386 gnome-genius-0:0.7.6.1-3.fc6.i386 gnucap-0:0.34-3.fc6.i386 gnupg2-0:2.0.0-4.fc7.i386 gpsim-0:0.22.0-1.fc7.i386 grads-0:1.9b4-19.fc7.i386 hugs98-0:2006.09-1.fc7.i386 js-0:1.5-6.fc6.i386 koffice-kexi-0:1.6.0-2.fc7.i386 ktechlab-0:0.3-5.fc6.i386 lash-0:0.5.1-10.fc6.i386 maxima-runtime-clisp-0:5.10.0-8.fc7.i386 mono-debugger-0:0.30-7.fc6.i386 ngspice-0:17-7.fc6.i386 nmh-0:1.1-19.fc6.i386 octave-forge-0:2006.07.09-8.fc7.i386 opensc-0:0.11.1-6.fc6.i386 pari-gp-0:2.3.0-4.fc6.i386 php-readline-0:5.1.6-1.fc6.i386 pl-0:5.6.20-1.fc6.i386 q-0:7.5-2.fc7.i386 q-devel-0:7.5-2.fc7.i386 R-0:2.4.0-2.fc7.i386 ucblogo-0:5.5-5.fc6.i386 yafc-0:1.1.1-5.fc6.i386 yap-0:5.1.1-2.fc6.i386 yaz-0:2.1.26-1.1.fc6.i386 -- Miroslav Lichvar -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list