I've read through the Debian bug report where this very problem is being discussed right now: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=354622 I think Mozilla's restrictions on the trademark are a real problem. For example, they don't even tolerate SECURITY updates without explicitly approving every single patch. They have also pretty-much backpedaled from a previous agreement they had with Debian (with the justification that that agreement was with Gerv from the Foundation and now it's the Corporation which decides), who is guaranteeing us that they won't do it to Fedora too? Who's guaranteeing us that they won't refuse to approve an important patch (or worse, ALL new patches) in the future? I'd really suggest following Debian's renaming here (with the same name if possible, to reduce confusion). Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list