On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 08:57 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 09:47 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-09-18 at 07:58 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > > > > > > > It would be great if Fedora could be cross compiled using any host > > > > system to produce binaries for any target system, be it a supported and > > > > rare host (s390, ia64) or an entirely new target (arm, mips*). > > > > > > You'll never do that until we ban autoconf in packaging. > > > > Sigh - Will you ever stop reiterating this FUD? > > > All properly packaged "single-targeted" autoconf/automake based packages > > do support cross-compilation, OTB. > > Then there are few of what you call 'properly packaged single-targeted' > packages out there, because seamless support for cross-compilation has > _not_ been my experience. Well, I'd estimate 90% of all lib* packages do work OTB. It's the packages' authors who ship broken configurations, because they hard-code stupid things like run-time checks or hard-coding compiler/system features (byte-order, type-sizes etc.). > > Few packages do support mixed native/cross compilation and even less do > > support multi-target configurations. > > > > > Packages in _general_ won't cross-compile. > > Yes, because many packagers don't test it and because rpm doesn't > > support it. > > I've spent a lot of time attempting to cross-build the distribution. > RPM actually handles it just fine -- the problems were mostly caused by > the (possibly incorrect) use of autotools in the package itself. Well, this is NOT my experience. RPM doesn't even get the target/host/build-tuple right for native noarch building. Building cross-compilers (Note: These are native apps!) is PITA, because RPM doesn't handle foreign binaries correctly (stripping, debug info etc. all are treated as <native>-elf). Cross building (rpmbuild --target= ...) isn't even close to be be functional, because rpm screws up various target/host/build platforms setting (e.g. %rpmopt), and doesn't properly distinguish between target/host/build and contain many hard-coded redhat specifics (We are cross building cross-toolchain rpms to mingw, cygwin and solaris). > I agree, however, that there is nothing _fundamentally_ evil about > autotools. Autotools don't kill cross-compilation; people do. Autotools > just seem to make it easy. Right, that's a statement I can live with. Ralf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list