On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 10:50 +0200, Terje Bless wrote: > Chris Chabot <chabotc@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/articles/editorial_13 > > That editorial, without further context, has net negative information content. > > You can basically sum it up as "Ubuntu RuleZ! Red Hat Sux0rs!"; it's a pure > Appeal to Emotion, which I guess is why you say it relates to "the feelings that > some people have been feeling." You might as well quote song lyrics or a poem. It's about winning hearts and minds though. Articles like that one convey no useful information whatsoever - but it's an editorial so it's going to have a bias behind it - except perhaps for the fact that there are a lot of people who are very excited about Ubuntu. I'll bet a lot of those same people were very excited about Red Hat Linux back in the day. I used to use Ubuntu and Debian a lot more before I worked at Red Hat. Yes, they're good distros, but Fedora is a damn fine piece of work too and powered by a lot of very committed people. The problem is that we could do with a few others to get zealoty and enthusiastic about Fedora Core in the same way that they (recently) get so jumpy about Ubuntu. We shouldn't ignore articles like that because they have a tendency to help perpetuate various silly arguments next time someone writes a story. It's not always plain sailing with Ubuntu either. It took 1.5 days to install and configure Dapper on my Powerbook[0] so that I could use it as a desktop machine. Suspend didn't work because they'd patched their kernel with some broken patches, Bluetooth took ages to get working right, I had to manually configure the power management, lots of desktop annoyances out of the box, etc. By contrast, Fedora Core did actually install cleanly before I upgraded it to Rawhide. Yes it had things I fiddled with, but the experience was much better /in this case/. We all use the same upstream sources (plus a few patches) and everyone is trying to reduce the numbers of patches that need to be applied, so it stands to reason that as upstream evolves, so too will both Fedora and Ubuntu. Yes, we'll have differences and annoyances in both but people will still write articles like the above in any case. We need to help convince them that Fedora is a great Linux distribution too so that they start to criticize it for technical reasons, not ideological ones. Jon. [0] I mailed Mark and several others about it and I am sure the points have been addressed by now in Eft. I'll take a look when I get time. -- Jon Masters Phone: +44 7776 131337 Red Hat UK, Ltd. Email: jcm@xxxxxxxxxx -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
