Hi all, I'm seriously considering switching distro's after the AIGLX and target audience discussion. I cannot believe how arrogant most of the replies are, saying that if user install any third party software that then that thirdparty software is their problem. I also find this very hypocrite because normally when any chance breaking thirdparty software is proposed for inclusion into the current release people start screaming loudly. Like for example any suggestions to introduce an update to Extras with an soname chance. But since the thirdparty software breaking in this case is non OSS and since some very LOUD people happen to dislike the thirdparty software breaking in this case, they are all of of a sudden in favor of breaking thirdparty software during a what is supposed to be stable release? I'm just totally stunned by the arrogance in this discussion, the I'm holier then thou stance. And most of all the total disregards to the many end users who happen to rely on the thirdparty software in case. I'm seriously starting to think that Fedora is not the distro for me to be working on and switching to Ubuntu (by lack of a better alternative), now some of the arrogant screamers may say fine, we won't miss you but before saying so I would first take a look at owners.list in FE cvs and than think again. This is not meant as some kinda blackmail to stop the Xorg 7.1 update, to be honest at this point I don't care about the 7.1 update anymore. And as I said when I started the target audience discussion this was never about the 7.1 update. Its about the principle of not knowingly having a yum update during a stable release breaks peoples systems, especially not with a smile on your face and saying behind those end users backs that will teach them not to use binary crap. Because that _IS_ what is happening here. Sure there are many advancements in xorg 7.1 and I'm not suggesting to leave it out FC-6 even if the binary drivers aren't available at FC-6 launch time, but breaking stuff with TOTAL disregard to a large group of end users, during a stable's release lifetime is IMHO unacceptable. And what worries me is not this single instance of breaking, its the attitude behind it and the ease with which we (you?) step over the all of a sudden minor problem of seriously hurting a significant group of end users. Regards, Hans -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list