Hans de Goede wrote:
Hi all, I've been following the AIGLX repository discussion from the sideline. And I'm a bit shocked by what I'm reading there. There seems to be strong support for releasing Xorg 7.1 as an update for FC-5 even though that will break both NVidea and Ati binary drivers. For the records all my computers have a radeon 9200 running OSS drivers.
Kernel updates have been breaking non-free drivers all the time. There are a number of other changes that broke other third party packages. I dont quite understand why there is no much shock on potential of Xorg updates breaking such proprietary drivers.
I'm a bit surprised about this, since I find this very end-user unfriendly. The possible dropping of these drivers was what triggered me to write this mail, but the question asked in this mail has be on my mind for a while. When replying please focus on the asked question and if you want to discuss the Xorg 7.1 update for FC-5, please do that in the AIGLX thread and not here, thank you! I've been putting much of my spare time into Fedora, because I believe in opensource and want to help and because I believe Fedora is a good distribution. I've got friends, my wife, my parent and here parents all running Fedora. I think in our effort to make the best opensource OS we're loosing sight of one very important aspect: the people for who we make that OS. Lately I've heard saying that Fedora is a testbed for new RH technology (which IMHO is partly true and partly is what makes it great!) and that its a distro by developers for developers. Know I'm very much hoping that the statement by developers for developers isn't true, because then I've been spending my time working on the wrong distro, as I want to work on a distro targeting a larger audience then just developers.
Agreed.
So lets see what our officially state goals are, the frontpage of http://fedoraproject.org says: Fedora Core is an operating system and platform, based on Linux, that is always free for anyone to use, modify and distribute, now and forever. It is developed by a large community of people who strive to provide and maintain the very best in free, open source software and standards. Then on http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview there is some more about our goals in much the same line. So Fedora is all about opensource, freedom and choice. Good! But Fedora as an OS is meant to be used by people, right? I mean what good is it to create "the very best in free, open source software and standards." OS, if almost noone is using it?
There is very broad range between people use and depend on proprietary software and "noone" and we need to work on improving that user base.
So I'm assuming that we are making Fedora to be used by people, lets call these people our target audience. I've been searching the wiki for a definition of this target audience but I have failed to find it. So I'm asking it here, what is Fedora's intended target audience?
It was pointed out in the earlier discussion the current websites didnt provide this. Here is a draft. Feel free to clarify this further.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list