On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:26 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 15:44 +0200, Leszek Matok wrote: > > Dnia 25-06-2006, nie o godzinie 18:53 +0530, Rahul Sundaram napisał(a): > > > rpm is a low level tool > > > Its generally a good design not to expose all of > > > the functionality in higher level tools > > True, but yum is a dep-resolver and rpm-downloader. I expect it to allow > > me to specify version of a package I want to have (either upgrade to > > newer, but not newest, or downgrade to older), then check if it can > > satisfy all the dependencies with that version. I don't want it to have > > --nodeps nor real --force, only something like rpm --oldpackage and rpm > > -F package-version.rpm (now it's equivalent to say rpm -F package-*.rpm > > and selects the newest). > > > > If the dependencies can be satisfied and I want to test some package > > version (because I want to see which version introduced a bug I'm > > reporting on bugzilla, helping you fix it), there's no reason not to let > > me do it. It's far from rpm -e --nodeps glibc, you know :) > > > > Telling users on the list to use rpm --force --nodeps --whatever instead > > of yum install package-older-version is teaching them bad things and is > > more harmful. > > Have you actually requested this functionality anywhere? We are talking > about two different things here. For this particular problem, simply > removing the older version of nfs-utils helps resolve it. It doesnt > require any rpm command command at all, not to mention, no use of > arguments like --nodeps and --force and that isnt being advocated by any > developers. For nfs-utils it might work, but other packages might not be as easy to just "remove" and "install" again, because they might break things, for example bash, glibc, rpm, etc. A good way to install a specific version of a package might be way better than a --nodeps or --force in yum or rpm. Would it technical (and political ;-) possible to extent yum (maybe even via an optional plugin) so that it could install a package with version X. If version X causes dependency problems because an already installed packages needs version > X than it could just bail out. That way one could more easily fix problems like with nfs-utils, but it will not allow the user to shoot itself in the foot by doing a rpm -e --nodeps glibc :-) - Erwin -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
