On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 21:43 -0400, Warren Togami wrote: > One of our European engineers dwmw2 tried to improve the Unicode > situation in our squirrelmail with the current scripted conversion hack > in an attempt to workaround upstream squirrelmail's horrible > localization policy where their encodings are inconsistently mixed. > This improved things a bit only for some European languages, but not the > Asian languages. Squirrelmail was a mess. It would confuse character sets whenever the user quoted a mail with non-ASCII characters, if the character set of the mail being quoted was different from the character set of the user. By switching it to use UTF-8 throughout, we fixed that problem -- and in doing so we made it conform to the Fedora policy of using UTF-8 for everything -- a policy which we've had for a long time now. So I changed all the locales to use UTF-8, changed their help text, etc. It was slightly more complicated for the Asian locales, as Warren says. The Korean help text was _supposed_ to be in EUC-KR encoding, but 'iconv' refused to convert it to UTF-8, claiming that it wasn't valid EUC-KR to start with. The Japanese support in Squirrelmail has 'EUC-JP' hard-coded in one or two more places than the normal configuration files, and does the confusing thing with EUC-JP in the Web interface and ISO-2022-JP in the email. I _thought_ we'd switched both of those to UTF-8, but I'm afraid I lack the knowledge of Japanese which would be necessary to do meaningful tests. Yamakawa-san, if you are able to spare some of your time to help us test the behaviour of Squirrelmail packages in the Japanese locale, then that would be very much appreciated. > As you may be well aware, it is currently infeasible to expect the Asian > countries to use only Unicode encoding due to the constantly moving > standards and different glyphs in different languages using the same > code-points, among other problems. I've heard it said that UTF-8 is insufficient for Asian locales, but I've also heard it argued against -- I lack the knowledge to judge its truthfulness. I had supposed that the Fedora policy of using UTF-8 everywhere was sane and correct -- are you suggesting that it really isn't? I know there are Luddites even in Europe who object to UTF-8. I ignore those too. I'd prefer to fix the bugs and make sure Squirrelmail works correctly in UTF-8 for all languages, rather than reverting to obsolescent character sets for certain locales. -- dwmw2 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
