On 3/30/06, Rudolf Kastl <che666@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > 2006/3/30, Rahul Sundaram <sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: > > On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 04:28 -0500, Benjy Grogan wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm really enjoying using FC5. Tomboy is a great tool for jotting > > > down ideas. I actually put together this email using a few tomboy > > > notes. I have a few suggestions -- that you can take or leave -- that > > > I wanted to share to help out with 'Fedora's way forward'. :) Here > > > they are: > > > > > > > > > 1) A welcome to Fedora (or RHEL) tutorial for new accounts and even > > > maybe a tips section everytime you log in. DAC would be a really good > > > topic for new users. > > > > Do you want to help with that? . Docs project has a number of people who > > introduce themselves but then dont contribute. So the actual > > contributors are extremely low now. > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject > > > > > > > > > > 2) Have a place in Preferences set up for the two or three available > > > Javas (Sun's and the OSS ones). Then when you have installed Sun's > > > Java you have a place to switch back to the old one, and vice versa. > > > (Question: Is a compiled Azureus the same if it's based on Sun or > > > GCJ?) > > > > > > > Fedora wouldnt ship Sun Java. Azureus is GCJ compiled. > > > > http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc5/#sn-Java > > > > The alternatives mechanism already allows you to switch between any > > implementation of Java as long as it is appropriately packaged. Check > > out the third question in > > > > http://www.redhat.com/magazine/001nov04/departments/tips_tricks/ > > > > > > > > > 3) I have a question on codecs. Is it possible to get all OSS codecs > > > these days based on the GStreamer plugin system? I think the whole > > > audio/video codec problem would go away if there was a GStreamer Codec > > > management system where OSS codecs would be there by default and then > > > the user would go out and get all the proprietary GStreamer codecs > > > he/she is missing. It should be simple to look at a Fedora system, > > > and say "alright, got those ones, but missing these ones (like > > > mp3/avi). And I can figure out where to get them." And this > > > presupposes a future where there are only Gstreamer codecs. > > > > Thats exactly how it is supposed to be working. We are almost there at > > this point. > > > > > > > > 4) Since Firefox is one of the most important pieces of the Linux OS > > > these days, it would be great to have all of the alphas, betas and RCs > > > available in update-testing. That would allow some users to test > > > Firefox for bugs over an extended period of time before 2.0 or 3.0 > > > comes out. Obviously, under some guidance from Fedora with all the > > > patches they put into it. > > > > fedora updates-testing repository is just for testing updates that would > > almost always be later pushed out as actual updates. Having a > > experimental repository might be a good idea but the current usage of > > updates-testing repository is low enough to not deviate into that. > > That wouldnt fit though into the definition of the experimental > repository proposal i am still working on unless the experimental ff > is packaged in a way to coexist with current stable releases (wouldnt > even be bad for regression testing then.). i will add it to the > argumentation chain. I'm currently trying to get a CVS build of Firefox 2.0 to run on FC5. The build compiled fine in my home directory. And when I go to the executable and run it to determine the version I get: $ ./firefox --version Mozilla Firefox 1.6a1, Copyright (c) 1998 - 2006 mozilla.org But if I then run it as $ ./firefox all that happens is the default firefox 1.5.0.1 loads up. The exact same thing occurs if I d/l the tarball from the Bon Echo release homepage and follow the instructions: Extract the tarball and run ./firefox: tar -xzvf bonecho-alpha1.tar.gz cd firefox ./firefox ... so I'm guessing there is some configuration I have to do. If anyone can enlighten me I would appreciate it. I found Bug 157133 <https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=157133> useful in showing me how to fix some selinux problems I had with the libraries libxpcom_core.so, libxpcom.so, libmozjs.so, and libxul.so. Before I could run firefox, I had to deal with this message on each of those libraries: $ ./firefox ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: ./libxpcom.so: cannot restore segment prot after reloc: Permission denied The solution was to follow some advice from Dan Walsh in Bug 157133 and do as so: # chcon -t texrel_shlib_t ./libxpcom_core.so # chcon -t texrel_shlib_t ./libxpcom.so # chcon -t texrel_shlib_t ./libmozjs.so # chcon -t texrel_shlib_t ./libxul.so Yet, now I'm dealing with the problem of Firefox automatically redirecting to the version of Firefox that comes with FC5. Any help would be appreciated, Thanks, Benjy -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list