Excuses
for all..
Yeah... there are
concrete problems with the lack of the java plug in. But besides that I
had problems with some applications (class this and class that not
found... and lots of other errors and messages, but I'm not St. Claire
- Santa Clara - to give light to blind people, nor I'm under contract
to point out again and again where inconsistencies appear). BTW, try to
run Gentleware SW Poseidon for UML without Sun Java... Try to develop
sw for portables using Waba/Super-Waba or the likes without Sun Java...
anyways, I think that at the moment the discussion turned quite
"religious" and around "dogma" so I'll pretend everything is ok and
stop posting, pretending that if nobody complains, then there are no
problems at all.
I wrote consistently in
past around problems with SATA RAID (RAID1) and computer locking
without leaving a single trace message for you to work with and try to
discover what happened. Last week another guy started the same "via
crucis"... Perhaps next week someone else will engage the line and post
the same question... My advice to the poor boys... convince your boss
to purchase external SCSI raid. But before, see if it is compatible...
avoid the risk of get it even not recognized by Operating System.
I warned about USB system not recognizing OV-511 devices. Well it is
not true: if you turn your computer off and them turn it on... it
recognizes it... but don't unplug from main power lines... just turn
off and on...
The current kernel
(2.8.16-1.2083_FC6) issues a message that the processor of my box is
overheating, so speed is going down... That's not true and I sent an
e-mail... The answer was: not enough data, but that was all the data
recorded... BTW, I'm not working in a morgue, but temperatures are
around 20C... Solution? Easy: download kernel source (not available by
default), fix it, recompile it... re-install it. And now I work without
the annoyance of "clock speed throttling down and" until the computer
gets stuck... BTW, if someone cares, heat sensors get crazy whenever
FPU is required like with setiathome (BOINC). Processor: Pentium 4 @
2.8GHz (not that Ferrari). All coolers and fans working properly...
NVIDIA is a "recurrent"
issue... and official position is that people don't need NVIDA official
drivers... because if you want to play a game you will use a M$ box or
a PS2 box... They forgot people who, by any chance, may be interested
in using CAD software that creates 3D real time animations (no
problem... you save your animation and see it later like a mpeg4
movie... eeepss... like avi movie... eeepsss... like theora movie). Or
you download everything you need (step by step) from livna, DAG or
other places... And so on and so forth... (even if you're not systems
manager, even if you have a schedule to deliver the work ...). But
perhaps I should became an evangelist and start going to the CAD and
Game and Sound/Music/Video companies convincing them that ogg/theora is
the holly word. Until it is not.
Hey, I'm in the "business" from early 80's... remember: OSI network
with it's 7 layer architecture would be the future of networking... the
heated discussion about field-bus and other architectures... and why
ethernet would never be used inside a factory or production platform...
The needs for the complicated OSI management (nowadays everybody uses
SNMP) and why ASN-2 would be the word in terms of data description
(nowadays everybody uses XML).
I watched heated discussions around Lotos/Estelle and other "formal
protocol description languages"... None became standard or evolved to
important commercial product. You know some? Please, name it to me...
The "big promise for the 90's", the Ethernet-V6 is still a promise in
the 2000's... address and QoS issues are being asserted in
Ethernet-V4...
Then came ISDN for "fast SOHO and home use"... ISDN (64kbps) became
Fast ISDN (128kbps) and now both are deeeeaaaad. Now we talk about
2mbps ADSL/Cable connections... And, naturally, 2Mbps wireless...
I was just present when heated discussions about the advantages of ATM
and why "megabit ethernet" would never launch. Saw every type of
simulations... Now we are discussing Gigabit Ethernet and I have seem
very few people working around ATM.
In short: dogma sucks...
Now I don't use NVIDIA anymore (thanks to Fedora) and use SiS...
Then, at some point someone inside said that the responsibility of
"Fedora People" is with "RedHat share holders". Then it (the
discussion) got really crazy: not to "cause trouble" to the company,
lets make it less functional and competitive... Then, when I say what
happens in the biggest market of LA (not Mexico), they "kindly remove
the top of the message"... But if the responsibility is with the share
holders, them they must know why sales are bleak... Not that I really
care about that... I am not a RedHat share holder...
I just happened to see the
movie "Supersize-me" from mr. Spurlock in the HBO2 channel. McDonalds
behavior just make me think about the meaning of this conversation.
With the complication that at no point mr. Spurlock was called by any
official from McDonalds of being "stupid". Neither he had to hear "if
you're not satisfied with McDonalds, why don't you eat at Burger King,
just next block"...
Bye and Godspeed
Pedro Fernandes Macedo escreveu:
On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:15:02 -0500, Andrew Overholt <overholt@xxxxxxxxxx> escreveu:
* Casimiro de Almeida Barreto <casimiro.barreto@xxxxxxxxx> [2006-03-28 07:59]:
The java that comes along with GCC runs only about 10-20% of Java Applications
in market. Want examples: try to access any Brazilian bank using "Fedora
standard Java".
Can you give concrete examples? Preferably as bugs?
The banks that he mentions require a java plugin, so he will have to wait for the work on the plugin.
As for the applications, I dont have any examples of well known applications, except the bug report I just filled (bug 187513), about a JFileChooser that shows no files in the directory and throws an exception if you click on area where the files should be.
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Pedro Macedo
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