On 3/28/06, Eric S. Raymond <esr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I'd be willing. But this really needs to be done by a lawyer. Yes indeed it does which makes the fact that you have brought this up.. on a list dedicated to discussing technical issues particularly bemusing. So are you comments about it seeming to be reasonable path for RedHat contrary to the current policy stance RedHat has taken. How exactly do we as laypeople even begin to discuss with you the feasibility of this idea ... if you don't even know what the terms of the license being offered are? While a lawyer's review will be needed before a serious effort at implementation can be done. Certaintly knowing with specificity the exact language of the offered terms from the patent holder can only help produce informed discussion. I fully expect there to be conditions which will broadly be understood as problematic to solve some of the issues you have with how things are done now. If you think there is a shred of hope for community members to have an option to buy in towards a "pay up" for an open source project that is actually worth buying into.. please be so kind as to do the necessary inquiries with the patent holder about the available license terms and conditions before making that suggestion public. Right now you are taking about a 3 million mile view on the issue.. and everything that matters in this discussion are details in the licensing terms, which you don't know. Please refrain from speculation until you are in a position to at least state clearly what the offered terms and conditions are. We can't even have a well intentioned layperson discussion as to what is or is not allowed without specific terms. However I think its a waste of everyones valuable time to discuss the pros and cons of implementation details like "pointing yum to a 3rd party location by default" until you can present us with the terms of the licensing that is being offered and there is informed opinion about what is allow,what is not allow, and what is uncertaintly allowed by the language of the terms that you are suggesting the community spend resources in securing. -jef -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list