On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 09:56 -0300, Casimiro de Almeida Barreto wrote: > Andy Green escreveu: > > Eric S. Raymond wrote: > > > > (...) > > > But the art problem pales compared to the issue that everyone has > > > been > > > ducking, which is Fedora's support for DVDs and proprietary audio > > > and > > > video and web-streaming formats and Java applets. That is to say, > > > its > > ... > > > It's 2006, people. The Web is fifteen years old. Even non- > > > techies > > > have had a decade to form expectations about what constitutes a > > > base > > > > Supporting Flash seems to soak up most of the problem that can be > > solved, eg, youtube, Google Video, and if you have 32-bit firefox > > you can have it. Seems the only answer for Quicktime and such is > > the corporate mantrap that is Mplayer, it makes no sense for Redhat > > to invite attack on their cash by playing that game. There is no > > limit to the number of dangerous proprietary formats that one could > > address by that logic. > > > This kind of argument only shows 2 things: > > 1. RedHat/Fedora people are absolutelly unable to deal with major > manufacturers (Adobe for Instance) and have good versions of > Flash/Shockwave and (Apple) Quicktime. Curious thing is that > my Apple Mini (a real wonder) runs OS X Tiger (that is a *NIX > system) and has no problems with flash, shockwave or PDF > files... as well as don't have problems with device drivers. > 2. RedHat wants, in the mid-range/long term to have a "commercial > product" where those "facilities" and other "utilities" are > sold at a price... or 3. We actually want Fedora to be a entirely Free and open source system like stated explicitly. Funny how that works. > In software market everything is gray zone. You issue MySql and AFAIK > it is not really "open source", but them you stripe it (so RHEL can > have the full flavour and the others don't). MySQL is not open source. That's news to me. Why doesn't it qualify? > You may not know, but what was done to PHP in FC-5 is a shame. There > is no f_ck_g way to make international encoding to work well. Did you file a bug report? That would be a first step for all confirmed bugs. Rahul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list