Am I right in saying there has been substantial changes to the way in which hardware detected works in FC5? (I see from the release notes PCMCIA handling has changed and kudzu has been deprecated). I have prepared a report of my (not good) experience with a Thinkpad T41p, but right now there is very little hard data in there which can be used for debugging. Any advice how to file a useful report about hardware that did work with FC4 and does not work with FC5? Also: I was thinking about the testing of the install install process prior to the final release. Since many people cannot afford the space to have a spare partition for test releases (especially on laptops) and it is not possible to install to a USB drive, it would be useful to have some sort bootable live-CD with just enough software to test the hardware detection. Eg something like the Windows Device Explorer program. If I had something like that during the test phase I would have caught all these problems a long time ago. (I did all my testing in a virtual VMWare environment -- and it works great there!). Joe. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list