On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 14:20 +0000, Bill Crawford wrote: > True enough, but the focus stealing prevention is something that's > been needed for a long time. Not for me, it hasn't. I know for sure I don't want it. The typing-the-root-password-in-the-newly-opened-im-client scenario doesn't keep me up at night. In fact, it's a non-issue for me. But more importantly, I don't understand why people are harping on the terminal use case. My particular complaint applies to the entire desktop -- when I start any app (say from the GNOME menu), it does not get the focus! It is started in the background with a flashing button in the task bar. This behavior simply does the wrong thing for me in more than 90% of the time. In fact, I can't remember the last time that I wanted to "continue my work" between when I clicked on an icon, and the app started. This seems to be a dorky fix for some apps taking to long to start. Let's make them start faster, that what people want anyway. To add insult to injury, this behavior is making life a lot worse for people (like me) that try to avoid (as much as possible) the use of the mouse. If I start an app, it means that I want to use it _now_. Don't make me ask for it 2-3 times. In the unlikely case when I don't, a quick Alt-TAB solves the problem. If this is still not obvious to people, here's a quick comparison: Focus Stealing: -- >90% of time it does the right thing -- <10% the fix is a sub-second Alt-TAB, no mouse Manual Focus -- >90% you have to use >1sec to gain the focus with the mouse -- <10% you don't have to do anything If you still prefer the manual focus, all power to you, but that shouldn't be the default behavior. Let's just stick to the principle of least surprise here folks, we would make a lot of people happy. -- Dimi Paun <dimi@xxxxxxxxxxx> Lattica, Inc. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list