On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 07:06 -0500, sean wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:19:49 +0100 > Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > What do you guys do when you want decent 3D performance? > > > > Use the proprietary drivers ... :-) > > There are few cases where resorting to proprietary drivers is required. > There are open source drivers that provide good-enough 3d for the needs > of many Linux users. Wishful thinking - Try finding a notebook without an ATI or Nvidia graphics card ... > > You are ignoring the fact, Linux has a strong user base in people with a > > scientific/engineering/technical background ... > > Engineers may have needs which can't be met by open source 3d drivers > today. Not sure who you're grouping into the scientific and technical > categories though, i have a technical background and my needs are met > perfectly well by open source 3d drivers. Mine are not - I am working on 3d simulations/animations/visualizations. For my applications, the nvidia driver outperforms the nv driver by ca. factor 10. On top of that, for the hardware I have available, the nv driver had been non-functional on one machine before FC4. > > Whether you like it or not ... reality is different. > > You should speak for yourself instead of imagining you have > a better grasp of reality than everyone else :oP ROTFL ... > > People are pragmatically using what they have/can get/are supplied with, > > and will ditch the distro or even the OS if it doesn't suite to their > > demands. Fortunately for Fedora, the proprietary drivers have worked > > sufficiently well. > > Many people have been misinformed on this matter by others who are fixated > on the latest-and-greatest graphics speed. I am not talking about squeezing the "max" out of the latest and greatest graphics HW, I am talking about: - Getting 3D/GL functional at all. - Getting a reasonable 3D/GL performance. - Getting access to advanced GL features. all on moderate to old graphic NVidia cards. > Personally I think it's time for > a more rational discussion about the capabilities and performance levels > actually needed by most people. If you want to get a feeling about what I am talking about, try SceneViewer (From Inventor, in FE) with one of the models from the Large Geometry Repository, or try the Coin Examples from sim.no (Not in FE). Ralf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list