On Wednesday, 15 March 2006 at 03:50, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 02:02 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 15 March 2006 at 00:02, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 12:26 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > > > Harald Hoyer (harald@xxxxxxxxxx) said:
> > > > > What do you think about the attached patch to ifup-wireless? Works for me :)
> > >
> > > > This should really be done in NM.
> > >
> > > Some of us would prefer to avoid being plagued by NM. It
> > > (wpa_supplicant) works just fine, independent of NM and I've just got it
> > > hooked in the bottom of the ifup scripts as they describe doing on the
> > > project site. So far, I haven't found a problem that NM solves for me
> > > and a few that it creates for me. NM and wpa_supplicant should each be
> > > optional and orthogonal to each other.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Personally, I find NM quite troublesome and the named dependency puts me
> > off immensely. Why the hell do I need to install a domain name server(!)
> > on a laptop? I'm sticking with ifup/ifdown for the time being.
>
> For a few reasons:
[snip reasons I don't really care about]
> 3) If you don't like named, DON'T USE IT. What you don't seem to
> realize is that NM doesn't require named. It doesn't launch named. It
> doesn't use named unless named is running, and named's dbus service is
> enabled. NM will happily write /etc/resolv.conf, just like you want, if
> you don't run named. The choice is, actually, up to you.
Please check the facts before replying with such confidence. I suggest you
look at the spec again (version 0.6.0-3):
Requires: caching-nameserver
[...]
Requires: bind >= %{bind_version}
This pulls in named when installing NetworkManager via yum. Sure, I can
*disable* named, but it still sits on my HDD. I don't want it installed in
the first place.
Remove this (explicit) dependency, and I'll be happy to forget ifup.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=185505
Regards,
R.
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