On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 18:22 +0100, Erwin Rol wrote: > On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 22:30 +0530, Kevin Verma wrote: > > And what are the projections with this tool ahead, I will also like to > > point out that this tool is not working much as good enough on lower > > resolution of 800x600 I have read it somewhere that the developer > > accepting this tool does not look much eye candy yet, but can we > > please have a peer view of the mock they have in mind this tool will > > look like. > > Pirut's GUI is just in a poor pre-alpha state, it hardly follows the > Gnome HIG, it can't do full screen, strange large font, the GUI > sometimes locks up when doing "networking" work, and the icons are just > terrible. If it is going to be shipped in FC5 like this it will just be > a plain embarrassment for Fedora. > > Of course that does not mean pirut doesn't have potential and certainly > doesn't mean the pirut developers are doing a poor job, it is simply > means pirut is not ready yet. By that logic, system-config-packages wasn't ready either (which pirut is replacing). I think that with pirut, we're in better shape * pirut does a better job of following the HIG than system-config-packages (please file specific cases where not). There are just some things in the HIG which can't make sense, eg, instant-apply :-) * The icons are placeholders and will definitely be fixed up before FC5 but rather than harass Diana multiple times, I wanted to get to a point where things are working pretty well instead of needing artwork multiple times. * I've tried to ensure interactivity as much as possible without pulling in threads. Unfortunately, some of the libraries being called into don't give any sort of progress feedback, and thus, long-term will probably require threading to give good interactivity. If there are specific places which are especially bad, please file them and I can see if there's a callback I'm not taking advantage of. We're already far better off here than we were with system-config-packages, though * pirut will actually be able to continue functioning after you've installed an update that has other requirements. For a fun way to break system-config-packages, install an updated, eg, krb5 package and then try to install the development group and watch it be unable to cope :-/ Jeremy -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
