All, I was wondering around the value of embedding java within the operating system and some of the most important applications, beyond the academic exercise. I would rather focus on a better architectural design allowing for a more flexible package inter-dependency. The point of Java is "platform independency", if this requires more CPU and memory, that is OK, they come cheaper than the work necessary to maintain a parallel product line. If it is about license independence from Sun, Sun have never hinted that they will create any problem in future, it would all go to their disadvantage. Commercially, I would never recommend to rely on the native java packages. Just look at Eclipse, the masterpiece, 3.1.2 is out and FC5 dev is still on 3.1.1. What is FC4 on? I do not even know, never used, it did not even work with plugins like MyEclipseIDE. How much work has been spent to build those packages? It must have been man years. How much more will be needed to maintain them? I would rather spend my investment in time in re-designing the architecture of the system to take it to the next level. Please, see also my post on "The future of linux ..." -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
