On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 18:44 +0100, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Tue, 17 Jan 2006, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 12:16 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 14:51 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > > Yes. Planned to be included in FC5. Can we finally drop up2date and > > > > rhn-applet from the release? > > > > > > > up2date and rhn-applet will continue to be included for FC5 (though not > > > installed by default) to help make it easier for people to transition > > Why? Has the transition phase so far (I.e. all Fedora releases since yum > > had been introduced), not been sufficient to finally bury them now? > > Give your mother Fedora. Try to get some graphical way to get notified > you need to 'update'. Then have her click her way through updating her > machine. (note that she wants to watch DVDs and listen to MP3s so she > has livna, freshrpms, atrpms packages installed too). > > I have done exactly this last week on FC4. It's a disaster. The standard > add/remove software gave me errors. synaptic couldn't deal with the > repositories either, and yumex is so unbearably slow I thought it was > broken, but then realised it is just unbearably slow, so I tried using > it and found its listing of packages isn't what the proper state of > the machine was. I lost a large selection to 'add' once that i spend > 15 minutes on. When it did "work", it was working without any message > to the user, and it would take minutes for it to do anything after > clicking on the update or add button. > > I ended up having to explain to her what a terminal window is and how to > run 'yum update'. While she feared the 'command line'. > > So with package managers and updates and GUI's we're not there yet. > > Paul > It seems a shame to remove this why has it never been setup to work with Fedora. It was always nice to have this back in the old days. -- LostSon http://www.lostsonsvault.org /\ \ \ \__/ \__/ \ \ (oo) (oo) \_\/~~\_/~~\_ _.-~===========~-._ (___________________) \_______/ I Want To Believe -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
