On 12/30/2005 07:13:22 AM, Axel Thimm wrote: > On Fri, Dec 30, 2005 at 01:05:46AM -0800, Jarod Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 29 December 2005 20:53, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > >And generate more support issues with the 3rd party repos. Yum is > > > >already creating support headaches with the --enable=foo switch, and > > > >having this being the default will not make it easier on us. > > > > > > > >Do you want 3rd parties to support Fedora Core? Then consider whether > > > >you want to make is easier or more difficult for those repositores to > > > >operate properly. > > > > > > I dont use them so I am neutral on that. Only talking about users here. > > > > I'm in the position of being both a user and a contributor to one of said > > 3rd-party repositories[1]. I definitely still want to support Fedora Core. > > > > > >And don't forget: We're talking about fixing something that isn't > > > >broken ... > > > > > > Getting bug reports based on packages being replaced isnt exactly a non > > > issue. > > > > Axel, I have to agree with Rahul here. While it isn't "broken", per se, its > > definitely an issue. There are quite a few people who are rather adverse to > > the way ATrpms, if enabled in full, replaces core packages, but still want to > > use a number of ATrpms packages. I know that (at least most of ;) the reasons > > for ATrpms replacing core packages are pure, at least from ATrpms' point of > > view, but there's something to be said for only upgrading what *must* be > > upgraded to add a new program. > > > > I think the majority of users who complain about ATrpms replacing core > > packages are what I'd call power-users, who are bright enough to enable > > protectbase for themselves, so protectbase off by default sounds reasonable > > to me. I think it gives those power-users what they want, and minimizes > > headaches for 3rd-party repo maintainers from sheeple who just want an mp3 > > player (or mythtv ;). > > ahm, the issue is about enabling this by default, not whether it the > plugin itself makes it into the release. Jarod described my position to a T. I use some, but not all possible ATrpms, so I am grateful for Axel's work, and the last thing I want to do is alienate him or have him stop caring about fedora. While I would like the distribution to contain protectbase, I'd have no problem swithching it on, so a compromise that it is shipped disabled would be fine with me. Regards, Willem Riede. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
